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Post by jaime94cat (Rob) on Dec 10, 2014 20:13:40 GMT -6
Well I never figured myself a decent model builder. I have been collecting 1966 batmobiles and have a few batmobile batcycle and boat models. I been putting off attempting a build. I was talking to a fellow at work and he said he loved to build models and was excellent at it. I supplied the 3 models and $100 bucks. As for his time the cash was worth it till I saw the finished product. Blobs of glue here and there. Brush strokes And bubbles on the paint. Guess he never heard of rattlecans. So I'll try easy off on the paint but how do I soften the glue to take these suckers apart. After seeing his builds I'll never hesitate again. Thanks Rob
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Post by donculley on Dec 10, 2014 20:32:36 GMT -6
The first thing I do when I get a gluebomb is to carefully remove the parts that aren't caked on . After that ,I would work on removing one stubborn piece at a time, sometimes using a sharp knife to score where the glue is until the layer is so thin the plastic comes apart. This can take a long time ,but it works for me .Sometimes there is no way to remove the part without destroying both parts, so you may have to rebuild with them permanently attached . I know some people put built kits in the freezer ;they say it helps getting the pieces apart. Its worth a try.
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Post by jaime94cat (Rob) on Dec 10, 2014 20:45:11 GMT -6
I have been able to remove some parts guess I am slowly gonna have to work at it. Can't repaint till the spring anyway as all painting has to be done in the garage. Wife's rules.
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Post by knarf on Dec 20, 2014 12:13:35 GMT -6
for paint removal you might try "purple power". it's a degreaser that is much less toxic than oven cleaner and biodegradable. find it any auto parts store or go to Dollar General where it's only $5 for the big one gallon jug
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 15:07:38 GMT -6
I feel your pain brother... Sorry about your 100 bucks! No matter how good you are, There's always someone better. Now you can clearly see the flip side, There's always someone worse! Never underestimate yourself pal, Be proud of the skill level you have, and your pride will show in your work. And those imperfections you see, Those are just a guide to teach you where you need to be more careful. Good Luck with the projects! Bill
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Post by iceman555 on Dec 20, 2014 21:09:58 GMT -6
Yeah sorry to hear about that. Freezing the kit can make the glue brittle. Also debonder helps but it does weaken the plastic so use sparingly.
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Post by Paul B. Canney on Dec 21, 2014 6:55:23 GMT -6
Well I never figured myself a decent model builder. I have been collecting 1966 batmobiles and have a few batmobile batcycle and boat models. I been putting off attempting a build. I was talking to a fellow at work and he said he loved to build models and was excellent at it. I supplied the 3 models and $100 bucks. As for his time the cash was worth it till I saw the finished product. Blobs of glue here and there. Brush strokes And bubbles on the paint. Guess he never heard of rattlecans. So I'll try easy off on the paint but how do I soften the glue to take these suckers apart. After seeing his builds I'll never hesitate again. Thanks Rob pictures please. I love perusing the 'pro built' claims on ebay. When I see some orange peeled stinker I usually email the seller and ask the name of the 'pro' who built it.
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Post by showrods on Jan 21, 2015 14:05:50 GMT -6
For paint stripping, I use a product called Scalecoat.
Scalecoat comes in about a 10 oz plastic bottle and is green in colour. It's used primarily by model railroad types so you may have luck finding it in a place that deals with trains. Alternatively, you can google it and find sellers that way.
It works great on both acrylic and enamel hobby paints. You may need to put in a bit of elbow grease though especially if someone has used a paint of unknown origin.
I've never had it damage plastic. I have however seen oven cleaner melt plastic and I would recommend that you not use it under any circumstance to strip paint - same goes for Pinesol etc…
I've yet to find a product that dissolves or weakens old model glue. Sometimes you get lucky and the glue is brittle - the parts separate easily by prying them with a hobby knife blade. Other times the glue is as strong as the day it was applied.
Peter
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Post by donculley on Jan 22, 2015 7:25:14 GMT -6
For paint stripping, I use a product called Scalecoat. Scalecoat comes in about a 10 oz plastic bottle and is green in colour. It's used primarily by model railroad types so you may have luck finding it in a place that deals with trains. Alternatively, you can google it and find sellers that way. It works great on both acrylic and enamel hobby paints. You may need to put in a bit of elbow grease though especially if someone has used a paint of unknown origin. I've never had it damage plastic. I have however seen oven cleaner melt plastic and I would recommend that you not use it under any circumstance to strip paint - same goes for Pinesol etc… I've yet to find a product that dissolves or weakens old model glue. Sometimes you get lucky and the glue is brittle - the parts separate easily by prying them with a hobby knife blade. Other times the glue is as strong as the day it was applied. Peter I have never seen over cleaner melt plastic of any kind in all the years I've used it on restorations . That includes plastic bits on old die casts ,old slot cars , and paint caked Deal's Wheels cars, which IMO have the weakest plastic ever. In fact I just stripped a Baja Humbug and a Swine Hunt with multiple layers of paint, and they both cleaned up like new.Maybe it was the brand you used .I was told years ago by someone here to only use Easy Off original formula, and I'm guessing I've stripped about 40 cars this way.
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Post by oldcarrestorer72 on Jan 22, 2015 22:01:09 GMT -6
Sorry about the kits !! I first apply some thinner on ALL the parts , once the majority of parts are off I get the smallest drill bit and make holes on the joints that have the heaviest glue!! I then apply some more thinner and that usually breaks the joints !! Make sure you be careful with the dremel!! Just practice , you should be good man!!!
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Post by oldcarrestorer72 on Jan 22, 2015 22:13:51 GMT -6
I use the cheap Dollar Store oven cleaner and never had a problem with plastic melting!!! Use on scrap plastic first to make sure !! I use an old baby wipes plastic container with lid to strip my models!! Just place model / parts on container , spray oven cleaner on model and close lid!!! Then after an hour or so take an old toothbrush and start brushing off the paint!!! Spray on some more as needed . You can also try nail polish remover for the small , stubborn spots . Hope this helps!!
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