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Post by falconwagon on Mar 13, 2015 15:47:22 GMT -6
Hey guys would anyone have an extra rear wheel and tire for the Sweetee? I have most of the rest of it. If your not kickin for 100% original... Any of the 2 pc. TD slicks will work. As for rims, Dragon/Circus Wagon, or Hangman. Cool so would anyone have one or two to sell or trade for. Carl.
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Post by beatnik on Mar 14, 2015 8:06:24 GMT -6
I just bought another kit because of you guys ! I really like the black and gold on this, now I got one comming.
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Post by mykturk on Jul 3, 2015 20:12:25 GMT -6
Okay, zombie thread time. I just picked up a couple built up "T"'s. A Sweet T and a Little T. The Little T has me scratching my head a little. It only has three carbs, not six. The intake looks to fit correctly, and isn't a modified version of the 6 carb. Was the Little T ever issued with intake options, or the 3 carb intake (Like the Big T has)? My unbuilt only has the 6 carb intake. I'll get pic's when I have some time to get good ones.
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Post by 70spop on Jul 4, 2015 20:37:47 GMT -6
The Early Iron issue of the '30 Touring had a 3x2 intake on the smallblock Chevy. Maybe the builder of the Little T swapped intakes. The flat box 1930 Ford kits also had a smallblock Chevy with a three-carb option, but those engines were cruder than the engine in the Early Iron kit. The original 1936 Ford coupe/convertible kit also had a Chevy engine with a three-carb intake, and that engine is better detailed. The intake is likely from that kit.
Brian
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Post by Starry Eyes on Jul 5, 2015 8:45:46 GMT -6
I have 2 issues of the Little-T '64-'67 .. The '64 issue is a flatbox and the '67 issue was a taller, "square" box... Neither mention a Little-T 3-carb option which was most likely planned to combine the 6-carb setup on the Little Deuce and Woody Wagon .. I decided to make my 8th scale Big-T with the optional (Big Deuce) 6-carb parts pack that Monogram had available in the 60's along with their line of tire options,rims, and "Big Drag" parts packs... It seems as though Mongram saw a lucrative option to build the 8th scale "T" like the small scale because they already had the mold from the Big Deuce .. But evidently experienced tunnel vision when failing to offer the tri-power option WITH the small scale Little-T kit.. What about using the one from the recently issued Black Widow ?
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Post by fordrodnkustom on Jul 5, 2015 13:53:05 GMT -6
I don't think the original Little T had a 3 carb option. Sounds like your original builder did a little parts swapping, possibly with the 3 carb set up from this kit?
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Post by RatRod on Jul 5, 2015 15:07:17 GMT -6
My guess is the original builder swapped the six carb intake for the one used in the '30 touring, and would easily work as they have the same shape. More like a real intake should. The intake in the in the Black Widow is a little more crude, with a flat bottom, but fits the rather crude 265 in the kit!!! I do believe the custom intake in the original '55 is a six carb, not a three.
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Post by 70spop on Jul 5, 2015 15:37:38 GMT -6
3 or 6, the intake in the '55 Chevy was molded together with the heads, as shown in the instruction sheet above.
Brian
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Post by RatRod on Jul 5, 2015 16:14:59 GMT -6
3 or 6, the intake in the '55 Chevy was molded together with the heads, as shown in the instruction sheet above. Brian That must be a goofy looking intake if you could be either, or!!!
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Post by 70spop on Jul 5, 2015 16:32:38 GMT -6
Hahaha! No, I meant "Whether it's a 3 or 6..."
Though technically, you *could* put three block-off plates on a 6 carb intake. Don't know how smoothly the car would run...
Brian
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Post by fordrodnkustom on Jul 5, 2015 17:33:27 GMT -6
3 or 6, the intake in the '55 Chevy was molded together with the heads, as shown in the instruction sheet above. Brian That must be a goofy looking intake if you could be either, or!!!All together my mistake there. After checking my kit the 55 intake is indeed a 6 carb set up and is molded to the heads as swiftly pointed out above. Without PICS from the OP on exactly what he has this is all speculative but I can offer this. This is the 30 Ford intake The 30 Ford intake next to an original Little T intake The 30 Ford intake on an original Little T mill
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Post by mykturk on Jul 5, 2015 18:02:35 GMT -6
Here it is. It looks like an original 60's era build up of the Little T, not great, but not a glue bomb ether. I'm pretty sure the carbs are the Little T, it uses the upper hose, breather tube and magneto. The question is, where'd the seemingly perfectly fitting tri power intake come from, at that time?
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Post by RatRod on Jul 5, 2015 18:37:11 GMT -6
Ron, the three carb intake you refer to as a '30 touring is in fact the intake from the Black Widow. Here's a pic of the '30 touring intake....
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Post by fordrodnkustom on Jul 5, 2015 19:19:25 GMT -6
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Post by RatRod on Jul 5, 2015 20:24:00 GMT -6
Ahhh, I get it, your going off the original early 60's (first batch) of hot rod kits from Monogram. The Chariot's intake is identical to the Black widow, but the valve covers are the same as the Little T. The (second batch) of Monogram hot rod kits 1964 and up. I'm assuming starting with the refabbed Touring in the Early Iron series of the tub, the engine, and intake were updated just like so many of these kits were for years. Thanks for teaching something new today Ron!!!
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Post by 70spop on Jul 5, 2015 23:31:11 GMT -6
Yeah, the engine in the Early Iron '30 Touring is much better tooling than the engine in the original 3-n-1 kit.
But I don't think the manifold on his built T is from the Early Iron '30. Just the carbs. The manifold could be from any number of old AMT kits.
Brian
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Post by fordrodnkustom on Jul 6, 2015 15:21:37 GMT -6
Ahhh, I get it, your going off the original early 60's (first batch) of hot rod kits from Monogram. The Chariot's intake is identical to the Black widow, but the valve covers are the same as the Little T. The (second batch) of Monogram hot rod kits 1964 and up. I'm assuming starting with the refabbed Touring in the Early Iron series of the tub, the engine, and intake were updated just like so many of these kits were for years. Thanks for teaching something new today Ron!!! Thanks John. Not ever having any of the later issues of the '30 Ford Touring I never knew it had an updated 3 carb manifold so I learned as well! I see me picking one or two up just for that.
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Post by fordrodnkustom on Jul 6, 2015 15:24:57 GMT -6
Yeah, the engine in the Early Iron '30 Touring is much better tooling than the engine in the original 3-n-1 kit. But I don't think the manifold on his built T is from the Early Iron '30. Just the carbs. The manifold could be from any number of old AMT kits. Brian Agreed. I searched through my manifold parts box and the the only one I could find even remotely close to the one shown is this dual carb manifold. I believe it is from the old Monogram '56 Chevy 2 dr. Bel Air.
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Post by Starry Eyes on Jul 6, 2015 16:55:40 GMT -6
After some quick digging I found an AMT "Chevrolet" engine with tri-power.... I even scored a set of Little-T headers..
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Post by mykturk on Jul 10, 2015 12:26:44 GMT -6
For anyone still keeping score at home, I scraped some paint off the intake and it's made of light blue plastic, about the color of the tripower on the right... And it has more detail than the black painted one Chuck has shown above. It really does seem to fit nicely, which is why I'm still wondering where it came from. It has a cast in boss for the magneto and the breather, radiator hose, and intake itself all fit together nicely.
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