Differences between the Tiger Sharkand Dream Rod?

[Ellis Kendrick]

Could some well-informed modeler out there in CC2 Land tell me what the structural differences are between the recently re-released MPC Tiger Shark and the original car Craft Dream Rod?

[rickg]

Hi Ellis, as far as I know, there aren't any Structural differences, Only Cosmetic.

[RatRod]

Rick is pretty much right as far as cosmetic. Looks like paint color, wheels, tube bumpers, and maybe a few other small details. Here's a couple links to check out the box art.

www.showrods.com/showrod_pages/dream_rod.html

www.showrods.com/showrod_pages/tiger_shark.html

[MM]

cosmetic changes are not exactly what really expects you.
I have both kits and here are only a few things that will cost you more than a few hours of bodywork.
Look at the pics in the links in Ricks posting above, click on the pics to enlarge and you can see what I mean:
the Car Craft has "open" fenders - front and rear - the tiger has them closed and this way a quite different beltline.
The hood is different -> scoop, (longer softer ?).
the tiger has body panels low between the doors
I think the CC frontpanel is designed with softer lines - also the rearpanel.
and of course nearly all the body datail parts are different.
These kits are like brothers, they have obviously the "same parents" - but they are not twins.
Markus

[crazylegs]

l also have both kits and was going to cast the dream rod since we now have a donor kit but really didn't get a very good response which l was surprised because l was only going to charge for materials and postage only (about $12.00)

[Deleted]

I musta missed that post, If that situation changes, count me in.

[theflame]

yeah, me too Krazy. I'll admit, if you mentioned it on the old CC, I probably didnt see it - I didnt check that as often. How many 'in's' do you need to consider making them?

[mrmetallic]

crazylegs said:

l also have both kits and was going to cast the dream rod since we now have a donor kit but really didn't get a very good response which l was surprised because l was only going to charge for materials and postage only (about $12.00)

Don't give up man. Maybe try the poll feature here to gauge the response.

[A.J.]

I'm wondering if anyone out there knows whether the Tiger Shark was modified from the Dream Rod in kit form? I had always realized that they were from different companies (MPC and AMT respectfully) but never checked to see if they were the same castings of the common parts. Looks like I have something to do today after all. I have both kits and will check it but does anyone know off hand?

A.J.

Joe, you may want to run that post again about the casting. I don't need one but there are some guys here that were interested aside from in this string. I think they all posted in the other string. I remember seeing it. I think you had it in the same string that you talked about casting that really cool engine.

[detroithammer]

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[Paul B. Canney]

First, Fred Ertl bought AMT, then he bought (saved!) MPC. So the two companies became one huge repository

Fred was the bomb! I think he single handedly saved this hobby

So both were actually MPC tools, so while MPC faded away, the tooling (now AMT) is MPC

volksrods said:

I'm wondering if anyone out there knows whether the Tiger Shark was modified from the Dream Rod in kit form? I had always realized that they were from different companies (MPC and AMT respectfully) but never checked to see if they were the same castings of the common parts. Looks like I have something to do today after all. I have both kits and will check it but does anyone know off hand?

A.J.

Joe, you may want to run that post again about the casting. I don't need one but there are some guys here that were interested aside from in this string. I think they all posted in the other string. I remember seeing it. I think you had it in the same string that you talked about casting that really cool engine.

[Paul B. Canney]

you're gettin there. you don't need the <img src stuff here though



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detroithammer said:

Let me try this first

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[Ellis Kendrick]

Hey, Joe! (aka. Krazylegs)
Sorry I haven't let you know that I wanted a Dream Rod Resin cast. I couldn't remember who posted that offer but Paul C. sent me your way. YES, YES, YES, I definitely want one. Can't beat $12.00 American! What would you think the shipping would be back here to the states. My zipcode here in Missouri is 64068.
I hope ths gets to you.
Ellis Kendrick

[A.J.]

Well, I understand that AMT owns MPC now but that's not quite what I was driving at. I was more thinking that since the Dream Rod was a mid to late 60s kit and the Tiger Shark was a late 60s kit that MPC must have purchased those molds from AMT in that time frame if it is in fact the same kit. There would have definitely been some major retooling as they were very different rods.

Who is Fred by the way Paul? I'm a little lost in that part of the history of these model companies. I haven't read any of the books.

pbcanney said:

First, Fred Ertl bought AMT, then he bought (saved!) MPC. So the two companies became one huge repository

Fred was the bomb! I think he single handedly saved this hobby

So both were actually MPC tools, so while MPC faded away, the tooling (now AMT) is MPC

volksrods said:

I'm wondering if anyone out there knows whether the Tiger Shark was modified from the Dream Rod in kit form? I had always realized that they were from different companies (MPC and AMT respectfully) but never checked to see if they were the same castings of the common parts. Looks like I have something to do today after all. I have both kits and will check it but does anyone know off hand?

A.J.

Joe, you may want to run that post again about the casting. I don't need one but there are some guys here that were interested aside from in this string. I think they all posted in the other string. I remember seeing it. I think you had it in the same string that you talked about casting that really cool engine.

[Starry Eyes]

Hey Joe - I have both original kits in kit form .. if you have any specific questions let me know ..

Chuck D.

[Paul B. Canney]

yeah, I got one, which is uglier, the 'Bad dream Rod' or the Tiger Shark?

The dream rod was excellent execution of too much asymetrical styling. Sometimes too much is too much.

The Tiger Shark toned down the over outrageousness, but the front pontoons don't make sense with the rest of the car.

It's better as a model than in reality.

chuckdarnell said:

Hey Joe - I have both original kits in kit form .. if you have any specific questions let me know ..

Chuck D.

[gwangiboy]

Just by going over the original box art, I thought the styling of the Tiger Shark looked a lot better ... but I think the Hot Wheels Python tops them both because it simplified the style even further.

Still looks like a fun kit to build ... I'll get around to mine one of these days!