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Post by Hemi on Jun 26, 2016 5:03:54 GMT -6
Everyone, I'm looking for the Mopar 392 Hemi valve covers that are "Moon" replica's in 1/25th scale, they look like this:  The catch is, I need 2 sets of them, matching for a project engine I'm trying to design! -I'm gonna fit a Viper V-10 with Hemi valve covers, but in order to do it right, I need 2 sets of them! NOW some here may know, I mold my own parts, SO IF I can locate one extra set making it 3 sets (6 valve covers) that match, I'll send out resin castings once the master copy is made, along with heads (I'll make those myself, on my Mill) BUT I want to do something that follows the looks of this:  SO, to keep them looking the way that second one does, I need the 392 Hemi "Moon" finned valve covers.... Anyone with these that can spare them and possibly gain some just for helping me, will get versions of my molded ones in return! -Chrome does NOT have to be perfect, as I'll strip it off them anyway! AND once the mold is made, and you want some, PLEASE let me know if you'd like them chromed, I do it with Alclad! Thanks for looking, any help is greatly appreciated! |
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Post by RatRod on Jun 26, 2016 10:21:32 GMT -6
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Post by Hemi on Jun 26, 2016 17:30:41 GMT -6
Thanks for posting that but, SADLY "Resin" doesn't "weld" like plastic does. I'm going to be CUTTING these up, and but-joining 2 halves, one end with 3 plug wire boot entrees, and the other end to have 2 plug wire boot entrees..... BUT because of the mere size of the whole part, I want to cut down as much "body work" as I can, and by using PLASTIC parts plastic welded together, it be a whole lot easier then but-joining 2 resin parts.... I plan, to make a MOLD of this when I'm done so I can reproduce these as Hemi V-10 parts..... -Notice the 2nd picture? It says "BIG HEMI" on it, because its not a V-8 part! its a custom made V-10 valve cover, thats REAL! was made in Vermont, I plan to model this beast! -Just the engine, as I want to use it in something else then what was done with it in real life, the real car was supercharged, mine won't be, and it was put into a '70 'Cuda, mines is going in a '70 Coronet Wagon made like a Nomad (2 door) thats a wild build.... |
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Post by Brandon on Jun 29, 2016 8:15:50 GMT -6
Neat project... I look forward to the results. Do you know of any kits that have the finned valve covers in particular?
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Post by Hemi on Jun 29, 2016 8:48:32 GMT -6
Thanks! As for what kit that would have them would be any of the older Drag racing kits, (That I know of) I am unsure as to what kits that do actually to spell out an actual kit with them.... -I just recall seeing them at one point just can't remember what kit it may have been!
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Post by 41chevy on Jun 29, 2016 10:00:34 GMT -6
Thanks! As for what kit that would have them would be any of the older Drag racing kits, (That I know of) I am unsure as to what kits that do actually to spell out an actual kit with them.... -I just recall seeing them at one point just can't remember what kit it may have been! These are in the Revell Willys kits, either the Big John, the Stone Wood s Cooke and the Street Machine. Theses are closest to the covers ? I don't recall the full rib covers in any of the older kits and I looked through my collection of drag kits going back to 1970. Paul   |
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Post by Hemi on Jun 29, 2016 19:00:03 GMT -6
Thanks! As for what kit that would have them would be any of the older Drag racing kits, (That I know of) I am unsure as to what kits that do actually to spell out an actual kit with them.... -I just recall seeing them at one point just can't remember what kit it may have been! These are in the Revell Willys kits, either the Big John, the Stone Wood s Cooke and the Street Machine. Theses are closest to the covers ? I don't recall the full rib covers in any of the older kits and I looked through my collection of drag kits going back to 1970. Paul -I have those 392 Hemi valve covers.... And they're not right.... HOWEVER, in researching, the "Moon" type had to have been made at some point.... Our member "RatRod" posted the Competition Resins part for them....  Seen and bought here: 392 Hemi "Moon" Valve CoversBUT The issue with those is, they're resin, they don't or won't be easily but-joined to make a V-10 Valve cover from. and I'm not sure how well the resin would take "body work" to make them smooth and such, I KNOW what I need and have to do on plastic to make this happen.... I may have to sit this one out "kitbashing", and Mill my own part, as thats what its looking like...... -As I'm to hard headed and stubborn to settle for less then what I'm trying to achieve even knowing those Moon valve covers do exist, but where and on what model is the real question! |
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Post by 41chevy on Jun 29, 2016 20:48:39 GMT -6
I hear you. I looked through about 40 kits and first thought the original issue Piranha had them, close but not cigar.
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Post by 70spop on Jun 29, 2016 20:51:41 GMT -6
The AMT '57 Chrysler 300C **custom** version kit has some finned valve covers in 1/25, but iirc they are similar to the Revell Willys covers. Not sure I've seen any that are "flat" on top and completely finned like those resin ones.
Brian
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Post by Hemi on Jun 29, 2016 21:37:21 GMT -6
I hear you. I looked through about 40 kits and first thought the original issue Piranha had them, close but not cigar. So then, my next question would be, can you post me a pic of what those in the Piranha kit look like? I ask as if they're something closer then what I HAVE, I may search out ones like them! As my pickins right now are lookin' pretty slim! |
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Post by Hemi on Jun 29, 2016 21:38:27 GMT -6
The AMT '57 Chrysler 300C **custom** version kit has some finned valve covers in 1/25, but iirc they are similar to the Revell Willys covers. Not sure I've seen any that are "flat" on top and completely finned like those resin ones. Brian Brian, I've never seen the '57 Chrysler 300 "Custom" kit..... I'll have to look an see what those may consist of! |
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Post by Hemi on Jun 29, 2016 21:42:15 GMT -6
-Did a quick search on the AMT '57 Chrysler 300, they're just finned versions with the angled top edges... I have these as well!
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Post by 41chevy on Jun 30, 2016 10:38:26 GMT -6
The Piranha covers have the angled tops also. The AMT 1970 Pro Street Super Bee come with the parts to make the experimental Chrysler DOHC. Wide pretty flat hemi covers in it. Don't have one to look over in my stash though. Paul   |
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Post by Hemi on Jun 30, 2016 14:29:12 GMT -6
The Piranha covers have the angled tops also. The AMT 1970 Pro Street Super Bee come with the parts to make the experimental Chrysler DOHC. Wide pretty flat hemi covers in it. Don't have one to look over in my stash though. Paul Paul, Figures!!! I need them to be the "Moon" types..... The DOHC Hemi covers, I have, I bet I have 6 or 8 of those in plastic, never mind those I have molded!!! I'm looking for the full top finned ones for the 392 Hemi. MAYBE I'm looking for the wrong Hemi too....... The 331 Red Ram Hemi "Moon" covers would work, OR the 354 Hemi "Moon" covers would work... Slightly different in size, but the "look" is the same! |
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Post by 41chevy on Jun 30, 2016 16:25:55 GMT -6
Well John, I've exhausted my stash of vintage drag cars.  |
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Post by Hemi on Jun 30, 2016 17:28:05 GMT -6
DAMN! LOL I think I'll set out and machine my own from solid Styrene, (was trying to save my self some work), but...... I'd LOVE to know where Competition Resins got the masters for those they have up for sale!
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Post by 41chevy on Jul 1, 2016 10:18:54 GMT -6
DAMN! LOL I think I'll set out and machine my own from solid Styrene, (was trying to save my self some work), but...... I'd LOVE to know where Competition Resins got the masters for those they have up for sale! Probably did the same thing you'll end up doing. Ross Gibson (before he went out) had a set of finned 392 cover in his Vintage Gasser Hemi but said Dodge between the top 2 fins and were rounded on the edges but they were resin also. |
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Post by Hemi on Jul 1, 2016 13:41:23 GMT -6
So Paul you machined a set out, or hand-built them? I have a Unimat and use it A LOT! so, this is what its lookin like what I'm gonna have to do to get these to look the part....
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Post by 41chevy on Jul 2, 2016 12:11:44 GMT -6
I used a set of resin M/T finned covers as a start point, Micro balloons mixed with thick Zap for a hard but sandable filler, Mr Surfacer 1000 as a final filler ( it is a brush on heavy primer or thinned Nitrostan putty depending your veiws ) and .015 x .025 Evergreen rectangular plastic for the fins.
A Unimat would have made it a snap but at that time all I had was a mini lathe and moto tools. I did made an adapter to mount parts on the tool head and use the chuck to hold a mill . . . to make a few Allis Chalmers Big Al Diesels.
Now I have a Unimat that I use mainly to machine out chassis rails, cross members and V-12 Cummins engine block assemblies for heavy trucks. Paul
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Post by Hemi on Jul 7, 2016 0:06:38 GMT -6
NICE! I'm not "set up" right this moment for Milling, BUT I use my Unimat extensively...... I have planned to go a i-6 Cummins for in pick ups (Yeah in the Rams) both a 5.9L and the 6.7L as I think the V-10 in the VTS Rams is way over used..... Sadly, there ARE other good engines by Dodge to go in those trucks.... I also have the means to make a resin 5.2L V-8 "318" BUT with the Magnum valve covers (they're different then those found on the old LA small block 318's so.... Which I also have them molded in resin!GAWD talkin' tools, I'll just keep my mouth shut.... I got WAY to many in the eyes of some, and some REAL "machines" to work side by side for different tasks.... Moto Tools, you mean "Dremels"  ? Good Lord, thats a tool NO model builder should be without I own at least one of every model they made! EVEN the Table Saw, & the Wood Lathe!!!! Altho, I have to say, I LOVE my Unimat, that thing is unstoppable in a Hobby Den! |
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? Good Lord, thats a tool NO model builder should be without I own at least one of every model they made! EVEN the Table Saw, & the Wood Lathe!!!!