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Post by Rallymaster on May 8, 2008 6:36:41 GMT -6
AJ is completely correct here. How much money people have access to in their lives is a touchy subject that we can sure comment briefly on, but not something we should dwell on.
And what's even more intensely personal is what people SPEND their money on. How many people do you know who gamble at casinos? Take elaborate vacations? Go out to eat multiple times a week? Drink at bars every weekend? To me, these are big wastes of money, but hey--it's their money!
And yes, for the record, I'm one of those guys who has paid $300 for a number of kits, some of which are still in my collection. Come to think of it, some of them I bought from A.J.!!
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Post by Rallymaster on May 6, 2008 12:42:47 GMT -6
Looks fun Mark! Wish I could have gone, but we had a GTO club event at Slinger Speedway that day. We met as a group and then did "parade laps" and smoky burnouts across the finished line. At first, getting on that highly-banked 1/4-mile track was kind of spooky. Then we all got the hang of it and no one cracked into each other. I was doing decent one-tire spinning with my 73 GTO, but I think I need some limited-slip help by next year so I can do a righteous burnout next year
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Post by Rallymaster on Jul 17, 2007 18:07:12 GMT -6
.....Scott Doyle:
HI Louis,
In cases where the room is open during judging, there are rules about how the contestants are to act. Unfortunately people tend to hang around anyway and they often overhear the discussions and that is where the negative reactions occur. Unlike a real car show, the model area is so small that it is difficult to discuss a model in a particular category without everyone who is looking at the other entrants in that category as well as about five others to overhear.
We too judge in teams, however there are two types of systems used in model contests. One is the style used Saturday which is the IPMS style. Basically it is like grading on a curve where the models are compared to each other and the best three win. This type of judging allows for models to be judged quickly, within the confines of short model show. The negative to this is that is promotes the "mine is better than yours" syndrome as well as gives the modeler a false sense of how good his model really is. After all, if your in a category with a bunch of poorly built models, your number one winner will go to another contest and get skunked. The other style is the AMPS style (mainly used in armor) and is similar to your car show judging. Model are compared to a standard and judged as they are entered in the contest by a panel of judges. The models are then awarded a gold, silver, bronze or nothing and then entered into the contest for viewing. This system gives you the best idea of how good your model really is and there may be multiple golds for the same category. However, this system is rarely used since finding a judging panel to sit all day and judge models is really hard. Not to mention the backlog that can occur if there are a lot of models being entered. Model shows are all volunteer events.
Most people who attend on a regular basis know the drill and even if they have not entered will show up about 1 hour prior to the time set aside for judging (which usually occurs about 1:00 pm). That way they can view the finished models (most are entered by this time) and then move into the vendor room while judging is taking place. When you go, particularly if you want to take pictures, just seek out one of the judges or club members who are running the show and let them know what you want to do and they will let you in while the judges are working.
I too wish we could leave the room open during judging, but you would be amazed at how seriously people take this and how childish it can get for a plaque.
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Post by Rallymaster on Jul 17, 2007 13:10:45 GMT -6
Hey you content guys, here is a discussion between two of my friends in Memphis about judging models. My friend Louis went to this modeling contest in Memphis (he posted a link here on the Coffin Corner) and was, as a pure spectator, put off by the yellow police tape barrier that was put up while the "judges were judging". Scott felt compelled to explain to Louis why the "police tape" is vital to good judging. Louis' reply is below Scott's. Oh and for the record, since Scott knew Louis from working on my 73GTO together, Scott allowed Louis behind the tape to view the models up close and take the pictures you may have seen in his post in the general section. --Dave ==================================== > HI Louis, > > Sorry I didn't get to spend more time with you yesterday as I was > involved in judging by the time you came in. The "crime tape" was > put up at 1:00 so judging could take place. This is a point of > contention at shows as the judges prefer to not have the crowd, > particularly the modelers, around them when they judge. > Unfortunately, by it's nature judging is a negative thing. You > spend time finding faults with the entries until you come to the > model with the least amount of faults. When your doing this, you > really don't want to have the person who built the model > overhearing you "trash" his model and becoming discouraged with the > hobby and then not participate in the future. Because of this, I > won't judge in an "open" room, I've seen bad results come from this. > > The way we try to help modelers get better is that judges sign each > category sheet so the contestant can find them and ask why his > model didn't win. That way you can spend time with the modeler and > offer constructive criticism. This will be of help to them in the > future. At the IPMS Nationals, there is a time where judges are > assembled and people can take there models to them individually > and have the model judged, again in a constructive way where the > modeler can benefit from it. The way to get better is to volunteer > to be a judge and once you do this a couple of times, your modeling > will get so much better once you understand what criteria good > judges use and how the process occurs. The first time couple of > times you judge you are on observer and accompany a judging team so > you can ask questions and learn. > > The show itself was pretty good for a local show. There are so > many clubs having shows these days, it sometimes approaches > overload and the number of people to attend an event can get > small. Gas prices aren't helping either and I know this probably > cut down attendance at the Memphis show by about 10-20 modelers and > 5 vendors. The show was a success though and hosting club did make > money so they will probably have another next year and if it is > timed so it will not compete with too many other events it should > be a larger draw. > > Take care, > > Scott > =============================================
Scott:
That's OK, I could see you were busy. I appreciate you letting me gain access to the display of models, I was able to see what was on hand that way. That is why I came to the show after all!
I understand your concerns about judging and being misconstrued by a contestant. I've judged many a full size car show myself and you get a lot of the same concerns with the big car guys. However, If my opinion as a non-contestant spectator were to count for anything, I would also add that the lockout via yellow tape is in my view counterproductive. I'm sure most of those attending were also contestants, but surely some (like myself) were not. Coming to a "show" and not being able to see anything is not going to win the hobby any new fans. Admiration of the work will breed enthusiasm for getting involved. I purposefully waited until the entry deadline had passed so I could see everything that had been entered. I showed up right at 1:00 PM... shucks, too late.
If it were me running the world, I would lay down some ground rules for the contestants when they enter the show that spell out acceptable participant etiquette. Namely, steer clear of judges while they are doing their job. If contestants get in your face, tell them to beat it. If they are too thin skinned to endure a judging process, then maybe they should take up stamp collecting, or at the least refrain from entering contests. I'm kind of curious now to know how closely the judging process resembles that of a full size car show. Traditionally, we would judge in teams, everyone's score would be collected, and then the points were totaled for a score. It wasn't necessary to really say much of anything to other judges. At least not until you were done with a particular car. participants generally know to leave you alone. Most times the score sheet would be available to the contestant after the show so that said participant could get some feedback. Inevitably, someone who is not focused on having fun will get miffed, but that's kind of their problem in my view.
Still, I thought the contest was neat as can be, and it allowed me to see some real enthusiasm for something that I thought was on life support. I would go again tomorrow, especially since I have a "connection" to get into the "inner sanctum" of displays.
Maybe if can keep the glue off my fingers, I might even have to enter one someday!
Later; Louis
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Post by Rallymaster on Dec 9, 2006 9:27:35 GMT -6
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Post by Rallymaster on Oct 22, 2007 16:53:41 GMT -6
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Post by Rallymaster on Oct 14, 2007 13:39:55 GMT -6
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Post by Rallymaster on Oct 7, 2007 20:37:02 GMT -6
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Post by Rallymaster on Sept 30, 2007 21:28:07 GMT -6
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Post by Rallymaster on Sept 30, 2007 15:04:12 GMT -6
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Post by Rallymaster on Sept 20, 2007 16:47:00 GMT -6
I'm selling off a handful of kits I'm not as passionate about as I used to be. Here's the best one: tinyurl.com/yp4ydz
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Post by Rallymaster on Mar 20, 2008 5:47:19 GMT -6
Wow this looks kind cool with performance to match. I'll have to let my Pontiac club know. And how/why has this vehicle reached "cult status" in Australia? tinyurl.com/3arzj2
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Post by Rallymaster on Mar 19, 2008 21:18:28 GMT -6
On Friday, I will begin my "Epic American Journey" with my 16 year old daughter, Erica. We are picking up my friend's 2007 Mustang GT California Special I've purchased from him. It has 4,900 miles on it. After celebrating in Memphis (where we lived for 11 years,) we will take an 8-day journey back to Milwaukee, through St. Louis and from there all on Route 66 in Illinois. This is the first Ford I have purchased since my new 1979 Mercury Cougar. This is the 4th time I'm buying a cool car and driving it home from a far away place. Erica will be keeping a daily blog with pictures. At the bottom of this initial post, there is a link to the pics of the car: homepage.mac.com/gto1973/EAJ_blog/Personal38.htmlIf you wish to follow the journey or read about it later, bookmark that link. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Questions I have been asked about this from others: Q: Are you going to let her drag race this car? Yes, this is essentially her high school car and yes, she will learn to drag race it in at Great Lakes Dragaway in Union Grove, WI with me. Q: Aren't you concerned for your daughter's safety? Of course...that's why we're living by the mantra, "the street is for "show", the track is for "go". She has also expressed a desire to go shooting with me and my new Ruger SR9. I plan to take her with me and teach her gun safety and respect to minimize the risk of her using a gun the wrong way some day too. Q: Why is your friend selling you such a cool car so soon? He's barely used it! He is impulsive, single, makes a decent living and changes cars like socks. I think he's getting a new Challenger next. If you're thinking of getting one and want it slightly used, call him and tell him what color you'd like and then wait 6--9 months. Q: I thought you were a GM guy? Chevelle and GTO? Yes, I am. But I have to admit this Mustang is very well done at an affordable price and both my daughters and wife 1.5 really like them. Q: Is this really her high school car? Do you really think she deserves it? Yes. No. Q: I think you're nuts. Could you put that in the form of a question please? Q: Will you adopt me and buy me a car like this? Not just no, HELL no. --Dave
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Post by Rallymaster on Mar 18, 2008 6:22:35 GMT -6
Has anyone seen this? This guy contacted Tom Daniel. His work belongs HERE! Keep in mind it's all 1/64 scale! scarykustoms.weebly.com/
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Post by Rallymaster on Mar 19, 2008 20:52:15 GMT -6
Hey this is Dave the Rallymaster. That's one nice place you've built there. I have bookmarked it for future reference.
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Post by Rallymaster on Mar 11, 2008 19:50:42 GMT -6
The number of 500+-HP cars out there today is crazy. And read what many drivers are doing with them on your public roads: tinyurl.com/ypmhe8
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Post by Rallymaster on Mar 9, 2008 18:09:58 GMT -6
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Post by Rallymaster on Feb 17, 2008 8:47:28 GMT -6
My pal Louis Kimery sent me a link to this guy. His web site gives me a headache to look at, but he does some righteous work with his artist tools. Below are two of his works for sale that should interest this crowd: Here is the page with that for purchase from his site: tinyurl.com/37f2kc
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Post by Rallymaster on Feb 9, 2008 13:08:40 GMT -6
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Post by Rallymaster on Jan 28, 2008 20:30:56 GMT -6
Which ones Dave ? don v I did a search on the Rally for "Bogosian" and it seems he was involved with 22 different designs in the Show Room.
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Post by Rallymaster on Jan 28, 2008 14:47:30 GMT -6
I have been contacted by the son of John Bogosian, the artist and designer of a number of our favorite kits in the Show Room. I have written him back and asked if John would like to write and publish anything for us in this space. -------------------------------------------------------------- Dave, I'm not quite sure how, but someone I know came across your website and told me I should take a look at it. My dad is John Bogosian, one of the designers of the models that are featured in your show room. I thought it was interesting to see a website showing these things from so long ago. I'm just curious how you have come across these models and your inspiration for posting them on your website. I would appreciate any information you can pass along. I would love to share your response with my dad as he has really gotten a kick out off seeing these out on the Net. Take Care, Raffi Bogosian
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Post by Rallymaster on Jan 19, 2008 23:29:09 GMT -6
The project is still viable. I just got this update from Tom Daniel: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The hang up has been with the trademark. As you know, Revell was sold to HOBBICO last year and it is taking (I think) a long time for the melding of the two companies.
Revell is also in the process of moving to a new rental office space, so that has slowed things as well.
Jim Foster, current pres of Revell told me (finally) - just recently, that he will bring the subject up at the 'New products' meeting in February and if HOBBICO doesn't want to spend the bucks for an all new tool, he will recommend they vacate the mark so that I can reacquire in my name (actually in the 'Daniel Intellectual Property Corp'., name). At which point the deal with Frank Winspur (Moebius) will proceed.
So, yes, its viable.
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Post by Rallymaster on Jan 16, 2008 20:32:38 GMT -6
Bob, I know Tom Daniel shares everything you've said here about Mr. Barris and those other designers. Thanks for sharing your informed insight.--Dave The biggest problem that I have with George Barris is " there is no one else in the customizing business". The "Monkeemobile" was designed by Dean Jeffries regardless of what Mr. Barris claims. Installing a sound system is not designing a car. I have known Barris since 1961 and take "a grain of salt" with anything he says. On the subject of the "Monster Garage" builds the aforementioned description of the "Lawn Mower" has to be correct. I really don't remember which product that I have seen from Jesse James ( and crew) but I do remember seeing a VERY ROUGH build that was posing as a WORK OF ART. baCK TO mR. bARRIS: I do not want to take anything away from him. He has been responsible for many custom vehicles, but, no one should forget the likes of Joe Baillon, Gene Winfield, the Alexander bros. the late Ed Roth and also the late Bill Cushenberry. I have met most of the "Big Name" builders and I would be hard pressed to pick out "NUMBER ONE" in talent or expertise. bob
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Post by Rallymaster on Jan 13, 2008 22:01:07 GMT -6
I did not get to attend this show last year so I was happy to get a few hours in this year. There was a good crowd and I was told by Mike Scott that it was "packed" on Saturday. The 2005 and 2006 "Ridler Award" cars was there and a few other spectacular customs to go with it. After that, it was mostly local muscle cars and customs which I see a lot of during the year (but still appreciate seeing them in January indoors!) I did not have time to attend any of the pinstriping auctions as I've done in the past. There was a nice assortment of bikes there but I'm no chopper guy. The model contest was impressive and Mike Scott took home some awards again. They had some old Green Bay Packers there from the early 60s and some WWF Playboy hussie. Click the link below: homepage.mac.com/gto1973/PhotoAlbum31.htmlWhen you get there, click on the icon to see it in "slideshow" format.
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Post by Rallymaster on Feb 9, 2008 13:04:57 GMT -6
Any way you can scan or take digital pics of your originals and post them here? You're not going to believe what I have, some of the ORIGINAL ARTWORK for the series! I have 13 pieces I think (haven't looked at them in a while). But they are truly remarkable!! If you think the cards look good, you should see the originals. There's a lot of detail and color that didn't show up in the cards! On top of that, they're done in ink and guache directly onto crescent board. Evidently Taylor didn't make many mistakes as he would have had to start over if he did!
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Post by Rallymaster on Jan 3, 2008 6:47:13 GMT -6
Here's a short essay I wrote for our GTO Club Newsletter, "The Redline"--d. -------------------------------------------------------- In 1969, I was a nine year-old fifth grader at St. Aloysius in West Allis. Like many boys of that era, we had become car-aware, not so much from the big-block monsters that terrorized our streets back then, but through magazines, plastic models, trading cards and stickers. Too young yet to even consider when we’d be driving, the big-block monsters that struck mock terror into our hearts were Odd Rods. Remember Odd Rods? They were an auto-centric boy’s “funnest” fantasy in the early 70s. Beginning in mid-1969, they were an original series of 44 small stickers depicting outrageous characters and creatures piloting (mostly) muscle cars of the day in surreal stances, billowing smoke from the tires, flames from the open headers, and maniacal grins from the occupants. Of course the best part is that they were STICKERS! Which meant you could put them on all kinds of places—most commonly being your metal lunchbox. Mom never approved, but you just HAD to cover up that lame “Batman and Robin” scene with these gnarlin’, snarlin’ beasts of the street. The Odd Rods were undoubtedly inspired by the late Ed Roth’s work of the 1960s. They were drawn by B.K. Taylor for the Donruss Company. Due to the initial success of the first series of 44 stickers, a number of other series’ followed with (not so creative) titles like, “Odder Odd Rods” and “Oddest Odd Rods.” Like everything else from our baby-boom era, these “pre-Pong” toys became valuable collectibles on Ebay, with complete sets selling for hundreds of dollars in the last 8-9 years. Well the BIG NEWS is that, after a 30+ year hiatus, Odd Rods and coming back! Or sort of—the original Odd Rods web site has been taken over and re-designed, the original artist seems to have reclaimed the copyright back in 2006, and they are already selling merchandise—which as of this writing is a simple Tee-shirt. You can check it out, plus the history of Odd Rods, a near-complete gallery of them and more at this web site: www.odd-rods.com/Collecting, trading and pasting Odd Rod stickers in those “St. Al’s days” are among my most cherished memories. There was just something about them that excited us—our mothers and the nuns hating them, those impossibly huge engines with blowers sticking out of them, the gross creatures with their unbridled joy at commanding such a dominant machine. We spent many an hour doing our best to imitate them by drawing our own fantasy blown creature vehicles with superchargers, fat slicks, slotted Ansen mags, and of course flames belching out of the headers. I’d like to see Xbox 360 inspire kids to do that today. Of course it’s not 1969. It’s almost 2009. And today’s grade schoolers get their fantasy kicks in stunningly-realistic landscapes from companies not even conceived of when the 1969 GTO Judge broke out to become America’s top muscle car. But hey, if this new web site does end up selling some of these stickers again, get some Pontiac ones and stick them on your grandkids’ lunchbox and see what they say. Oh that’s right—no one carries a metal lunchbox any more. Oh well, then stick one on a notebook cover of theirs. They still use notebooks and folders, right? ----------------------------- I concluded the piece by showing images all of the "Pontiac" Odd Rods--d.
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Post by Rallymaster on Jan 1, 2008 16:47:36 GMT -6
I'm a long-time reader of The Rodder's Journal and think this is an excellent idea! In real life, these cars, while admittedly over-the-top in cost for anyone but the well-heeled, are a tribute to the ultimate in design and craftsmanship for the auto hobby. I hope to see a variety of high-level modeling work from the creative and dedicated members of our show rod community.
--Dave
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Post by Rallymaster on Dec 29, 2007 17:00:32 GMT -6
Paul: Kudos on the time and trouble to put this all together and build those pages to allow us all to see these all at once. What a bunch of great builds from the members in this little community. I am truly impressed. --Dave
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Post by Rallymaster on Dec 7, 2007 13:01:05 GMT -6
Brandon! You been holding out on me my friend! Please buy some light bulbs and send me test shots of at least two of these babies--starting with the Bed Buggy.
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Post by Rallymaster on Nov 30, 2007 17:46:37 GMT -6
www.jayohrberg.com/9.htmlI have heard of this guy. Mike Scott sent me a link to is site. Does he own all of these cars? Or does he "share" them with Barris? All I can say is, he needs a new photographer. And he's looking for a museum site. Garage space anyone?
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